Following the rules about trying to stay on topic, I figured I would bring my question to a new thread. The previous conversation that got me thinking... Yep, you will be able to shove a bit, I recall that too. So I wonder when physical shoving might be seen as an attack, depending on the speed of the person running. At some point, couldn't it be? Perhaps it will never be seen as an attack. It might cause more problems than its worth....but running headlong at full speed and slamming into a farmer would certainly constitute an attack to me. Since there will be unarmed combat, and mass displacement is quite often very helpful, I hope one day that shoving will be considered an attack. I bet it will be more coding problems unless they define it narrowly, or actually have a popup: do you wish to attack? kind of thing as you slam into someone.